Payloadz vs Ejunkie

[canuckseller]

Ok I need this service. I know this is an E-junkie forum, but what are the true advantages over Payloadz? I've already noticed one frustrating thing about Payloadz - limited information about the service vs. a lot more detail on Ejunkie.



One other thing - I need to deliver 2 distinct pdf files with each purchase, can EJunkie deliver 2 pdfs by email after a single purchase?



Applying the appropriate tax rate is a huge feature for Ejunkie, but I can't tell if Payloadz does the same thing, no info. Can Ejunkie handle Canadian provinces with different tax rates?



thanks!

[E-junkie_Monster]

Hello,



I think the biggest difference you'd find between us and PayLoadz is the pricing. PayLoadz places limits and fees on the amount of sales you can make with their service and we do nothing of the sort.



You can use E-junkie for a small monthly fee and then make as many sales as you want, even if you have a huge spike in demand or are just consistently busy.



Typically only one file can be uploaded for a product, so if you need to sell two PDF files at once it would be best to combine them in a single zip file. It is also possible to give two different download links for each file using our bundling feature ( http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/help.package.htm ) but note that there's no way to take advantage of our PDF stamping ( http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/selling-ebooks.htm ) when you are dealing with multiple PDF files for one product.



Don't worry about the tax settings. Our advanced sales tax feature allows you to define different tax rates by state or province, in addition to postal codes if you need more detail than that:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/help.tax.htm

[hypnobusters]

We used to use Payloadz but we had a lot of trouble with customers not receiving their purchase. Never had that problem with E-Junkie.

[schmezo]

Payloadz didn't have the stored codes feature, so that's why I switched. Also e-junkie pricing makes more sense.

[servicespecs]

I wonder if e-junkie just puts the posts they want people to see and deletes the ones they dont want people to know about?

[E-junkie_Monster]

We only delete posts if they are duplicates or spam, was there a specific post you were looking for or did you have any thoughts on the subject of this thread?

[servicespecs]

hi ejunkiemonster,

i was just wondering why i dont see any mention of www.tradebit.com and www.ebuckz.com ?

i was selling service manuals on both www.e-junkie.com and www.payloadz.com only to have my accounts closed and my files deleted with no reason why. at least ejunkie wasnt predatory in their actions. when payloadz canceled my account i immediately filed a paypal dispute for my membership fees to at least get my money back. shannon sofield over at payloadz called me on my home phone demanding i close the dispute and personally threatened me and my wife, calling her by name. i removed the dispute because i have no idea what kind of psycho he might be. i dont need that kind of trouble in my life. he lives in new york, but still... i dont plan on visiting new york for another year or so.



so basically thats why i do not recommend payloadz. i like ejunkie a lot, but never get any kind of explanation as to why my accounts get shut down.



never had any problems whatsoever with tradebit and ebuckz.



thanks,

servicespecs

[E-junkie_Monster]

You may not be aware of this, but selling service manuals is not only a violation of our terms of service -- which would cause your service to be cut off without warning -- it's illegal.



Unless you are a licensed distributor you cannot sell material that you do not own the copyright on. You can only sell it if you created it yourself or purchased or otherwise received the legal rights from the original copyright holder. I can't speak to any specifics about your individual situation without knowing which accounts you were using that were terminated, but shutting down accounts for this kind of illegal behavior is something that we have to do pretty often.



A lot of people try to use services like ours to distribute copies of test books or music tracks or digital copies of service manuals. We are legally obligated to remove such material when we are notified by the legitimate copyright holder, which in your case was probably the manufacturers of whichever appliance or vehicle you were selling the service manuals for.



It would not even matter if the manual is otherwise provided freely by the manufacturer. It's their material and they get to say how it is distributed or who distributes it. Having a digital copy does not give you resell rights, and since a lot of our business depends on helping our legitimate merchants protect their own digital material we have to be very serious about cutting off accounts that are used for copyright theft.



You may not have had any problems with those other services yet but they are bound by the same laws that we are. Eventually the owners of the material you are pirating will catch up with your other accounts and get those shut down too.



Now, if you actually have the resell rights for those service manuals and feel we terminated your previous accounts unfairly that is something we'd be happy to rectify, but we'll need to see some documentation regarding that material.

[servicespecs]

aaahhhhh...

fantastic diatribe u have written ejunkie monster!

what marvelously white teeth u have!

i was selling out of print service manuals that had expired copyrights.

i am not interested in having u rectum-fry your arbitrary termination of my account.

please rectum-fry somebody else. that is, after u are done rectum-frying yourself.

you have demonstrated by your due process of categorically assuming that selling service manuals that have expired copyrights is illegal.... wrong!

that is what i was selling! thanks for taking the time to think about it after the fact.....

thus proving that your ideology... and subsequently your services are inferior to tradebit and ebuckz.

oh how well monsters can write... but can they read?



but... take comfort in the fact that u are superior to payloadz!



thanks for everything!



sincerely,

servicespecs

[E-junkie_Guru]

A published work simply being out of print does not expire its copyright. According to current copyright law in the US and most other countries in the world, copyrights expire either 70 years after the death of the author or, in the case of works for hire (e.g. published by a corporation), 120 years after the work was first created or 95 years after it was last published, whichever duration is shorter. A few other technicalities are covered here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyrightlaw_of_the_United_States#Duration_of_copyright



If the materials you were selling do indeed have expired copyrights according to the terms of current copyright law, we would offer our apologies for our previous reply if that seemed to imply otherwise, and we would be glad to reinstate any products you were selling that did not actually infringe copyright according to the letter of the law, or for which you had expressed written permission to resell from the current copyright holders.

[seattlecpa]

For what it's worth (and I know I'm a few days late to discussion)...



I used to use payloadz but switched because the fees really added up as compared to e-junkie. (BTW the payloadz fees are also higher than they appear at first because of the way you tend to "trip" into the next higher price level whenever you get a little spike in sales.



Another thing: e-junkie also provides some extra bells and whistles as compared to payloadz that may help you make more money. E.g., I wanted to pitch a new business owners tax newsletter (http://www.llcsexplained.com/business-tax-newsletter.htm) to past buyers of my do-it-yourself incorporation kits... E-junkie provides via their bulk e-mail feature a way to do that economically.



That said, I did have fewer download problems with payloadz... (Right now, I've been waiting for an e-junkie download for probably ten minutes... that's an amazon cloud problem, i'm sure... but it appears more frequent with e-junkie.)



Summing up, though, after selling thousands of downloads with each service, I use e-junkie.



Hope that helps.



Steve

publisher, www.llcsexplained.com

author, QuickBooks for Dummies

[idahowriter]

I used to use Payloadz - until they started making me lose sales.



When I reached my "download limit" and didn't get there immediately to upgrade the account, they simply told my buyer to get lost. And they did NOT keep that buyer's email so I could contact them.



That happened twice - and I left. E-junkie is much friendlier!

[E-junkie_Guru]

Steve, if you're seeing a rash of download problems, please send us some affected Transaction IDs to investigate:

https://www.e-junkie.com/ej/contact.php



Sometimes just canceling the download and trying again may clear up any network routing glitches that may seem to stall a particular download in progress, effectively like reloading a Web page that isn't responding the first time. This help page covers other issues pertaining to slow/stalled downloads:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/trouble.downloads.slow-stalled.htm



One somewhat common problem we see is with download accelerator/manager toolbar/addon software that tries to split downloads into multiple parts to download simultaneously; each of those segments counts as an Attempt on the buyer's link, so if you only allow, say, 5 Attempts per link, and the download software tries to split it into 6 or more pieces to download at once, that could instantly expire the download link. Some other factors that can seem to prematurely expire links are covered here:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/trouble.downloads.expired.htm

[schmezo]

I used payloadz before as well. Switched because of the stored codes feature e-junkie has.

[devonpete]

I'm currently having my intelligence insulted by payloadz.

My sales dropped expectedly as I had stopped marketing the downloads I was offering - just a few hangers-on were still interested so to cater for them I let it ride until I felt there was no more need for unlimited transactions.

So I decided to downgrade a couple of days ago from their Premium level because they say you can upgrade or downgrade any time. Crap. My account was downgraded to 'Free' and then immediately closed because of exceeding the transaction limit (£31 is allowed). One download was sold value £2 between me paying for August's Premium account and requesting a downgrade.

I removed all the 'Buy Now' buttons from my website so as not to confuse anyone, and still I got emails from payloadz saying folk were attempting to purchase downloads from me. and I should upgrade to meet these sales.

I have been in communication with someone at payloadz called Shannon who is obviously trained to be flippant with any customer relations work. I can't believe how bad this service is, and to be connected with PayPal (is payloadz owned by PayPal?) gives me the creeps.

[idahowriter]

I too wondered about the honesty factor. Did I REALLY lose customers, or was it just a ploy to get me to upgrade?



Whatever it was - I left and I've been happy with e-junkie.

[devonpete]

Payloadz are obviously not interested any more in me downgrading my account as I'm not likely to be passing over any cash in the future for their payloadz 'service', and therefore I've become a lost cause.

It's so shallow a road it's laughable. The way I see it is that you can have free usage until you upgrade, but after that any return to not paying brings termination. The 'free' bit is to get you hooked and prime you as a future paying client - even though they say you can downgrade anytime. Yes you can, but also your account will be closed too (they don't mention that side effect, so they're still not misleading, but just being economical with the truth.)

If I get any more emails saying someone is attempting to purchase a download - even though there's no way now of accessing the downloads at my website - I shall proceed to attempt to have them nailed big time. This is the stuff of organised crime for heaven's sake - falsified information to gain money? Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't conceivably see how any would-be customers are able to click on anything at my website that might sell them one of my downloads if I've removed the means for them to do that.

I'm now considering e-junkie for future sales. But it's true - good service costs money. but not too much hiopefully, as I'm only small time.

[leflaw]

Newflash re: older service manuals:





1. If a work was first published before March 1, 1989, copyright notice was required for the work to be protected under copyright. Works that were published without a copyright notice prior to this date may have lost all right to copyright protection.



THEREFORE



pre - 1989 service manuals without copyright notices are in the PUBLIC DOMAIN.







2. prior to Jan 1, 1978, any copyrighted work, unless registration was renewed, entered the public domain.





Check it out. Its true.

[E-junkie_Guru]

It's actually a bit more complicated than that; here's some relevant links to a good site that clarifies the matter of public domain vs. copyright:

http://www.publicdomainsherpa.com/copyright-duration2.html

http://www.publicdomainsherpa.com/copyright-symbol.html

[badra]

Hi



I am setting up a store to sell ebooks. I need solution for that. I have only the domain name and 600GB of pdf files to store. There is a potential that i grow more in ebooks files.

Please guide me through the process wih a detailed quotation keeping in mind the bandwidth storage, storefront ...



Thank you



Badra