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Oh man...please don't tell me Priority Mail "the standard" isn't an integral part of E-Junkie Fat Free Shopping Cart?!



I've spent 2 solid days working on adding merchandise and using your beautiful java pop up......



I'm about ready to jumpppp =)

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ashlar1Oh man...please don't tell me Priority Mail "the standard" isn't an integral part of E-Junkie Fat Free Shopping Cart?!



I've spent 2 solid days working on adding merchandise and using your beautiful java pop up......



I'm about ready to jumpppp =)

&lt;!-- shipping cost --&gt;<br />
&lt;input type=&quot;hidden&quot; name=&quot;&quot; value=&quot;&quot;&gt;<br />
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&lt;!-- shipping cost of each additional unit --&gt;<br />
&lt;input type=&quot;hidden&quot; name=&quot;&quot; value=&quot;&quot;&gt;<br />
<br />
&lt;!--handling cost --&gt;<br />
&lt;input type=&quot;hidden&quot; name=&quot;&quot; value=&quot;&quot;&gt;<br />
<br />
&lt;!-- tax (flat amount, NOT percentage)--&gt;<br />
&lt;input type=&quot;hidden&quot; name=&quot;&quot; value=&quot;&quot;/&gt;

It's not clear whether you're using FatFreeCart.com Cart instead of E-junkie Cart (aka "FatFreeCart Pro")? Note that the button codes are not cross-compatible between the two carts; you cannot use FatFreeCart.com button code with the E-junkie Cart service nor vice-versa.



Also bear in mind that we provide the FatFreeCart.com service at no cost without any support whatsoever (that's one of the reasons it's free :^), so that's pretty much a do-it-yourself proposition to set up and troubleshoot. If you start a paid subscription to E-junkie Cart, we would of course be glad to advise and answer any questions you may have.



However, I will at least explain that the FatFreeCart.com service can only specify flat shipping amounts for the first unit of each product and for each additional unit of each product.



E-junkie Cart is much more flexible and can either lookup USPS rates directly based on the order's total weight and distance (we obtain First Class vs. Priority rates and apply whichever is cheaper), or you can configure custom rate calculation like the examples described here:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/help.shipping.htm

TysonIt's not clear whether you're using FatFreeCart.com Cart instead of E-junkie Cart (aka "FatFreeCart Pro")? Note that the button codes are not cross-compatible between the two carts; you cannot use FatFreeCart.com button code with the E-junkie Cart service nor vice-versa.



Also bear in mind that we provide the FatFreeCart.com service at no cost without any support whatsoever (that's one of the reasons it's free :^), so that's pretty much a do-it-yourself proposition to set up and troubleshoot. If you start a paid subscription to E-junkie Cart, we would of course be glad to advise and answer any questions you may have.



However, I will at least explain that the FatFreeCart.com service can only specify flat shipping amounts for the first unit of each product and for each additional unit of each product.



E-junkie Cart is much more flexible and can either lookup USPS rates directly based on the order's total weight and distance (we obtain First Class vs. Priority rates and apply whichever is cheaper), or you can configure custom rate calculation like the examples described here:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/help.shipping.htm





FatFreeCart Pro is what I'm using.



I think I've figured that we are glad to pay the "standard" Priority Mail for all our shirts. That being said, this is the rule we would love to implement:



1-2 shirts fits fine within a "flat rate priority envelope" which is priced at a firm $4.95 regardless of weight.

2-5 shirts fits fine within a "flat rate medium box" which is priced at a firm $9.85 regardless of weight.



Do your regular envelope and regular box fit within the USPS sizing references? I don't see any reference to their dimensions.



Thanks kindly for your help and time =)



Update: I tried defining the medium envelope at a cost of $4.95 up to 24 ounces (our product weighs in at 12 ounces each) and then defined the medium box cost at $9.85 with the ounce set at 25 in hopes it would take over in the case a 3rd, 4th or 5th shirt was added. I must have done something wrong as now the shipping costs shows up being $16.90?! Whoa...this price even though each product was updated to reflect that rule under "shipping options" "packaging type - regular envelope" and "packaging capacity - 2" was changed and implemented into our site.

The container types don't have any relevance to the USPS package rates our system looks up; we might just as well have called them "Container A", "Container B", etc., but we figured naming them after a range of actual container types and sizes would be easier for sellers to keep track of in their configurations. E.g., if you don't ever ship in actual envelopes but have more than 3 different types of box, you could use our Sm/Reg/Lg Envelope container types to define actual boxes and just remember that our Sm Envelope "really means" a certain type of box for your own reference.



Products configured to ship in the same container type will consolidate into common containers according to packing capacity. E.g. if you have Product A configured to ship up to 2 units in a Reg Box and Product B that ships up to 4 units in a Reg Box, then an order for 1 unit of A and 5 units of B would add the cost+weight of only 2 Reg Boxes, since the "empty spot" in A's box can be taken by 1 unit of B, and the remaining 4 units of B can fit in a single Reg Box as specified in B's settings. Tube container types can also consolidate from smaller into larger Tubes, so in the example above if we'd said A could ship in a Lg Tube and B could ship in a Sm Tube (all other units/capacities being the same as above), then the example order would add the cost+weight of only one Lg Tube and one Sm Tube to the order.



If you wish to use our standard USPS.com rate lookups, just define each container type you're using with its (empty) weight in oz., configure each product with the weight of each unit in oz. and specify how many units of that product will fit in what container type. Any shipment weight totaling 13 oz. or greater will always return the Priority per-oz. rate (since First Class is only available up to 13 oz.).



If you would prefer to use flat-rate boxes (whether Priority Mail or some other carrier), then you would need to disable our USPS.com rate lookups by deleting your zipcode from Seller Admin > Cart Shipping Settings. You could then define the Cost of various container types as your flat rate, then configure each product with what type of flat-rate box it ships in up to what unit capacity. However, we don't have any way to "upgrade" from one container type to another based on the unit quantity being ordered.

TysonThe container types .





At this point I would much rather just have PP handle the shipping rules I have set through their interface. How do I pass the "no_shipping" variable with a value of "2" as opposed to my current "1" hard coded thru your script?



Thanks so much for all your help Tyson.



Obviously since were not utilizing any portion of EJ needed for shipping can we hide the shipping estimator in our cart as well and still pass the aforementioned value of "2" to paypal?

We cannot recommend or support using Shipping settings applied at PayPal's end, but if you can get that to work on your own, that's entirely up to you.



The no_shipping variable you mention refers to PayPal's own cart-button code, which is not relevant to a third-party cart system such as ours. I think you would at least need to disable the setting to "allow transaction-based shipping values to override the profile shipping settings" in your PayPal account.



You might want to experiment with disabling our USPS rate lookup by deleting your zipcode from Seller Admin > Cart Shipping Settings, but leave the custom Domestic and Int'l Rate there at 0.00, and Submit to save changes of course. Then simply configure each of your products with Shipping enabled and an accurate shipping weight, so those products will at least indicate to PayPal that they are Shippable and pass an accurate weight to checkout, so then PayPal may be able to calculate a Shipping amount from there?