Please confirm my ClickBank/e-Junkie set-up if possible

[laurab]

I have read through all the threads pertaining to ClickBank back to 2007 and it answered some of my questions, but I am hoping that someone can take a look at what I've done and see if it looks right.



My product is already approved at CB. I made a separate pitch page for CB with the hoplink their documentation directed.



I had previously set up the same product at EJ with my original sales page. I put the EJ thank-you URL in my CB settings. I got the secret key and product # from CB and put it in my EJ settings. Then I generated an EJ Buy Now button with the ClickBank option checked and replaced the CB hoplink on the pitch page.



Questions (sorry, there are several):



1) Will a CB affiliate who sends someone to that CB pitch page get the sale credited to them now that the button code has changed? In other words, does their ID get passed to EJ? I'm guessing it does, but I want to make sure I understand.



2) In an old thread here at EJ, you said, "E-junkie's Affiliate programs cannot work with ClickBank checkout payment." I'm assuming this would not be an issue for me, as any of my EJ affiliates would be sending buyers to my original sales page with the PayPal and Google Checkout buttons, and my CB affiliates would be sending them to the pitch page I created for CB. Is that true?



3) Is it actually necessary for me to have two sales pages?



4) I ran a test transaction through ClickBank and it went fine, but because I inadvertently had one of my EJ affiliates' cookies in my browser from a while back, the e-mail shows he got credited for the sale. Since it wasn't a real transaction, did he really get credited?



5) Regarding the two affiliate programs: This is probably a dumb question, but are they totally separate? By that I mean, I have my EJ program set up with a 55% commission and my CB program set up with 50% (to offset CB's higher fees). Is there any reason I can't do that?



I really appreciate your help. I want to make this process as smooth for customers as possible.

[sgt_bilko]

I started out with ClickBank for billing and just using e-junkie for the delivery part but recently decided to handle everything through e-junkie. No system is perfect and I need to spend more time to see how the e-junkie cart and affiliate side works out in the long run but my gut feeling tells me that e-junkie is just a more flexible system and that it will help me to make more sales.



In theory it's perfectly possible to have two separate sales pages with each one bringing in traffic for its own affiliate scheme and I considered doing this myself but came to the conclusion that it would be a real headache, not so much on a technical level, but from a practical standpoint if you intend to market the product yourself as well, especially since it's probably counter productive for SEO. Unless you have a group of fantastic affiliates in both programs making you piles of money, I'd say this was more hassle than it's worth but others with more experience may know better.



As far as I can tell the two affiliate schemes are completely separate in every way, but regarding your question about multiple billing options on one sales page affiliates really hate that because they end up driving traffic to your site, but then risk having sales made through the alternative billing option, so they make no money. If a ClickBank affiliate passes traffic to a sales page with an e-junkie buy button and a sale is made through the e-junkie cart the affiliate won't make a commission.



I am not sure that I answered everything, but I hope that helps a little.

[laurab]

It does, thank you, ashleykaryl. Thank you for taking the time to reply.



I too was going to go with only e-Junkie, but I decided I just don't want to miss out on the mass exposure I will get with CB. I guess I will definitely keep them separate so as not to chance having affiliates lose commissions and get angry.



I actually have three sales pages, one for me, one for EJ, and one for CB. I put a noindex tag in two of them so I don't have duplicate content; I hope that is sufficient to avoid problems.



If anyone else has specific answers to the questions in my OP, I am all ears.

[sgt_bilko]

I suppose the no index part could work from an SEO point of view, so that side should be relatively smooth.



It's true that ClickBank has a huge pool of potential affiliates out there and I'll be curious to see how many I find here at e-junkie in comparison when my ebook appears in the search listings. My personal experience was that although I picked up a large number of affiliates at ClickBank 90% of them are completely inactive and send very little traffic, but because of the way that ClickBank works it's often very difficult to contact them and offer help.



There are also cases where some affiliates may promote your products in ways that you don't like, so I am adopting a new strategy now of trying to deal directly on a much more collaborative level with serious individuals where we work together to produce good sales and I am hoping that the flexibility of e-junkie will allow me to do that. A dozen affiliates with decent levels of targeted traffic are probably worth more than a thousand casual affiliates. Only time will tell though which is the best strategy.

[E-junkie_Ninja]

Laura,



I'm going to try and answer all your questions from your first post.

LauraB1) Will a CB affiliate who sends someone to that CB pitch page get the sale credited to them now that the button code has changed? In other words, does their ID get passed to EJ? I'm guessing it does, but I want to make sure I understand.

If the purchase button is an E-junkie button then yes the affiliate will be credited in our system.

LauraB2) In an old thread here at EJ, you said, "E-junkie's Affiliate programs cannot work with ClickBank checkout payment." I'm assuming this would not be an issue for me, as any of my EJ affiliates would be sending buyers to my original sales page with the PayPal and Google Checkout buttons, and my CB affiliates would be sending them to the pitch page I created for CB. Is that true?

Yes, that is true, your affiliates that send your buyers to your E-junkie sales page will still be credited.

LauraB3) Is it actually necessary for me to have two sales pages?

If you want to have a setup where you are using both E-junkie's cart/buy now buttons and buttons that ClickBank offers to sale products, then yes your would. However, since E-junkie works with ClickBank you do not need to.

LauraB4) I ran a test transaction through ClickBank and it went fine, but because I inadvertently had one of my EJ affiliates' cookies in my browser from a while back, the e-mail shows he got credited for the sale. Since it wasn't a real transaction, did he really get credited?

If it was a test transaction and no money was actually collected then the affiliate should not be credited.

LauraB5) Regarding the two affiliate programs: This is probably a dumb question, but are they totally separate? By that I mean, I have my EJ program set up with a 55% commission and my CB program set up with 50% (to offset CB's higher fees). Is there any reason I can't do that?.

You can have it setup this way. The one thing you want to avoid is an affiliate that is setup in each system, as each system would then record a sale for that affiliate.

[laurab]

Thank you very much for the answers, especially the warning in the last question. I hadn't thought of that.

[sgt_bilko]

On that last point, wouldn't that only be an issue if the buyer had both cookies in their browser? It seems relatively easy to set up so that there is a different sales pages for each billing option but both downloading from e-junkie.

[E-junkie_Ninja]

That is true the buyer would need to have both cookies in their browser. But I have seen this happen, where between the two systems an affiliate was listed as being owed 110% of the cost of the product.

[sgt_bilko]

I set up a separate sales page for ClickBank and tried to make a test purchase with billing turned off at ClickBank and everything worked properly, but because I had a cookie in my browser from an e-junkie affiliate they received an email seconds later saying that a sale had been made and they were credited with 50% of the normal sale price even though I didn't use the e-junkie shopping cart and it came from a different sales page.