PayPal Payments Advanced

[mannyl358]

Hi,





Can I use PayPal Payments Advanced account with e junkie or do I need the pro account?



Manny

[E-junkie_Guru]

E-junkie does not support PayPal Payments Advanced. You can use PayPal Payments Standard, PayPal Payments Pro, or PayPal Payflow Pro, your choice:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/selling-with-paypal.htm

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-partner.htm

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-payflow-pro-shopping-cart.htm



Other payment services we support are listed here:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/help.payment.processors.htm



If you are primarily selling downloads, you may be interested in using E-junkie with the PayPal for Digital Goods checkout flow, which can allow PayPal checkout within an overlay on your site for buyers who already have a PayPal account (buyers without a PayPal account would be taken to PayPal's checkout site, as usual for PayPal Payments Standard):

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-for-digital-goods.htm

[healthnorthwest]

And why is that? I'm sure theres a good reason but if you can do paypal standard and paypal pro???



Its dissapointing over here. Now I have to pay PalPal $30 a month instead of $5 to be your customer? I clicked on your link through Paypal because you were a recommended company by Paypal. Now I have to look for a different shopping cart company that will accept my money.



I recommend you work on accepting it.





Jeff

[E-junkie_Guru]

You don't have to use PayPal Payments Pro (their $30/mo service); you can just use E-junkie with PayPal Payments Standard, like the vast majority of our sellers do. The only fee PayPal charges for their Standard service is the transaction fee they take out of each payment you receive. This help page explains our recommended settings for using E-junkie with PayPal Payments Standard:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/selling-with-paypal.htm



Honestly, this is the first we've heard of PayPal Payments Advanced (our PayPal liaison hasn't even mentioned it to us yet), so we'll look into whether that could possibly work with our service or not. Apparently the only difference that Advanced offers over Standard is some sort of checkout screen that can appear inside your own site, so we'd probably need to modify our shopping cart script to handle that, unless it requires a "licensed" e-commerce software package installed on your own server, which wouldn't work with a "hosted" e-commerce service like E-junkie that's centrally-managed on our servers instead of being installed on yours.

[seedprod]

+1 for PayPal Payments Advanced support

[lmr]

+1 for Paypal Payments Advanced support

[sns]

+1 for Paypal Payments Advanced as well.



I do not want to use PayPal Standard, but saving $25/mo by using Advanced rather than Pro would be a great thing.

[mkp007]

YESS!



this is a no brainer. save $25/mo. com'on man.

[E-junkie_Guru]

We DO now support PayPal Payments Advanced, as of a few months ago:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-payments-advanced-shopping-cart.htm

[cynthia]

Is there any difference to the customer checkout experience using PayPal Payments Advanced vs. PayPal Payments Pro? I called PayPal and they told me the only difference on their end between Advanced and Pro is that Pro allows you the Virtual Terminal which I don't use.



Is the migration from Pro to Advanced in eJunkie pretty straight forward and seamless? I'd hate to switch over only to find my shopping cart isn't working properly. I did read your instructions on "Selling with Website Payments Advanced".



I also have a php script that automatically sends an email receipt to my customers after they complete their purchase. Would this script stay the same if I switched to PayPal Advanced?

[sns]

I'm glad E-junkie integrated PayPal Advanced, but I'm not sure I'd recommend it to everyone. I have put my book sales on the backburner, and $5/mo (plus the e-junkie fee) is much easier to swallow than $30/month.



However, it took many months to get things set up. Paypal requires you to open a new Paypal account because for some reason the PayFlow (used with Advanced) is an entirely separate system. You can use your old account until the new one is set up properly. My issue was that the PayFlow site didn't work correctly and it took several calls to their support (not the same team as the rest of PayPal, mind you, so there was a little bit of "not our problem, call these other guys" back and forth too). Granted, it might have been just a week or so if I made it a priority to get it resolved.



The checkout process is slightly different, but I don't remember the details - it's been a while. It still works just fine, and I think I might have liked some parts of it a little more (and some a little less). It works though. My switch was around the time that my sales declined greatly due to less attention from me, so it's hard to say if the new cart affected conversions.



Of course, all of this is from a while ago. Maybe they've integrated the service better by now.



If saving $25/month is worth a few hours of work (it won't pay off immediately, it's a long term savings) then consider it. That's $300/year. If you're processing a lot of payments and $30 is a very small percentage, then maybe it's not worth it.

[cynthia]

Thanks for your post SNS. I realize you implemented PayPal Advanced over a year ago and it was brand new at the time. Which is why I've waited to evaluate it. Since PayPal Advanced was new and most likely had some bugs to iron out between PayPal and the eJunkie set up I decided to wait.



Can you, anyone else and please someone at eJunkie please comment on the PayPal Advanced payment processor now that's been over a year since it was introduced? My questions are:



Is the migration from Pro to Advanced in eJunkie pretty straight forward and seamless? I'd hate to switch over only to find my shopping cart isn't working properly. I did read your instructions on "Selling with Website Payments Advanced".



I also have a php script that automatically sends an email receipt to my customers after they complete their purchase. Would this script stay the same if I switched to PayPal Advanced?

[E-junkie_Guru]

We can't speak to initial enrollment issues at PayPal's end such as SNS described, but once you're properly enrolled for PayPal Advanced with them, you'd just follow our instructions to configure settings in your PayPal Manager and E-junkie accounts:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-payments-advanced-shopping-cart.htm



The last step there links to a setup form at our end, where you'd enter your PayPal Manager credentials; submitting that form would disable PayPal Pro and enable PayPal Advanced for your E-junkie Cart, which should take effect instantly, no need to change your existing Cart buttons or anything like that.



One issue we sometimes see is with the Transaction Password credential, which needs to be 6-16 characters long, alphanumeric (letters and numbers) only. PayPal Manager allows setting a Transaction Password up to 32 characters long, but their documentation for Advanced was inconsistent about that (some places said 16 char. max., others said 32), so we went with the more conservative limit to be on the safe side. We'll be reviewing PayPal's current documentation to see if they've resolved that inconsistency; meanwhile, stick with the 16 char. max.



Functionally speaking, the only significant benefit of Pro is access to a Virtual Terminal for charging offline card payments (e.g., for orders placed by phone, mail, fax or in-person); if you don't need that, Advanced would probably be sufficient for your needs. Any custom/third-party Integration you'd set up in your E-junkie account settings, to have us forward order details to a script after we process an order, would continue working just the same as before if you switch from PayPal Pro to Advanced.



The checkout flows for buyers differ slightly as well; Pro has the buyer enter their card details on the same page where they enter their Billing/Shipping address (a secure page we manage for you), whereas Advanced has the buyer enter their address(es) on our secure page and then proceed to another page (hosted by PayPal) to enter their card details. You can compare the checkout flows on our Pro and Advanced demo pages:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-payments-pro.htm

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-payments-advanced.htm

[cynthia]

Thanks e-Junkie Guru for the detailed response!

[ampierce]

Hi!



I also have a question about PayPal Advanced. I bought it specifically so my clients could check out on my page without having to redirect to PayPal, but when I add in e-junkie, it automatically redirects. Is there anyway to keep the entire process on my site?



I asked PayPal and they said I had to hire a developer and they have no idea and don't offer how-to videos, despite advertising the feature.



Thanks!

Alexis

[E-junkie_Monster]

Hello Alexis,



Sorry for the misunderstanding. Due to the nature of our service the checkout process has to leave your page even if you are using PayPal Advanced. This way we can use our existing security as part of the checkout process and you won't need to worry about taking any such measures on your site itself. For that same reason you won't be able to install the checkout process within your site while using our service, however.

[ampierce]

Hi,



Thanks for the quick response! I understand. One more question - how can I set one product to have a total price if paid in full or a payment option?



Thanks!

Alexis

[E-junkie_Monster]

Unfortunately it is not at all possible for us to support payment options. A single payment at the time of the order is the only form of transaction our cart will handle.

[roland]

so with the customer being bounced from my website to the shopping cart page and then to the paypal credit card page - this is more hassle than even basis paypal standard



i am looking for an easy & cheap way to jsut take credit card numbers on my website and still work with e-junkie - is that possible?

[E-junkie_Guru]

Since E-junkie does not install any software on your own server, it is not possible to have checkouts occur on your own site/domain when using our service.



Our cloud-based, centrally-managed "software as a service" spares you all the technical hassles of installing and configuring ecommerce server software, SSL encryption, and managing PCI-DSS compliance certification, but one of the inherent tradeoffs for this ease of setup is that checkouts must occur either on the payment processor's checkout site (e.g. paypal.com) or on a secure checkout page we manage for all our clients' card-based direct payments.