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May 2012

When are you guys going to introduce a non-flash site, or app or whatever? You said a very long time ago it was in the works, and I still hate not being able to use my iPad to work on my business. If you don't have plans anymore, do you know any decent workarounds?

We have had some unexpected personal and technical challenges delaying the new Admin project in the past year, but we're back on track and going full-steam with that again now, and we just recently hired a new, full-time developer whose primary focus will be on completing that project. We do apologize for the delays, with thanks for sticking with us.

Any guess on a time frame? Then I'll have something to look forward to, haha!

We prefer to do things right and well, rather than promise to meet arbitrary deadlines with no basis in reality, and right now we just have no basis to guesstimate how long it will take. We'd sure like to see it done within the year, but suffice to say, we'll only call it done when it's actually done. Right now we're only shooting for replication of current functionality; once that milestone is met and fully tested, we can go live with that and start working on adding new features and improving functionality.

can you at LEAST, PLEASE enable the mouse wheel for the product edit panel then!!



and make the last selected option the current index in dropdown/option list!



that is still flash and only takes a few lines of code tops! :slight_smile:

Are you referring to the Select Product menu when you go to View/Edit/Delete Products? That should already normally default to the last-edited product in the same Admin login session -- i.e., as long as you don't log out, the Select Product menu should always default to the last product you'd edited.



The new Admin is being built in HTML, so that should obey OS/browser-standard behavior for menus, including mouse-wheel navigation. Meanwhile, while the menu is open you can click in the scrollbar track, above or below the scrolling slider, to jump up/down in the list by a whole screenful at a time; also, typing a letter while the menu is open will jump to the first item starting with that letter in the menu list.

it has the last selected product there..but not when you open the drop down.. you always start at beginning and have to scroll back down..etc..



but just enabling the mouse scroll for scrolling through the drop down would be great!..





Im assuming its written in AS2? being thats been around for a while?





thanks

1 month later

yes please make this a priority :slight_smile: i love ejunkie, the service is great and it really helps run my business without me being there. BUT not being able to access the dashboard via iphone and ipad is a REAL drag. i've tried a couple of crappy app flash programs that didn't work (supposedly to allow ejunkie to work on iphone/ipad).



my 02.



thanks, david

2 years later

Is two+ years not enough to get us away from flash yet?

Latest word from our Admin developers is that they've completed a run-through of the total project in full, so now they're reviewing that completed body of code from end to end to look for bugs, adjust and optimize as needed, etc. Sounds like we'll have a complete alpha version ready for formal internal testing/QA review any day now.

1 month later

At this point I am actively looking for alternatives for me and my clients. That represents probably close to twenty ejunkie accounts.



I hate to say it but I have come to believe that there is no active development. It has been years but there is nothing to indicate anything has changed or is in the works other than an occasional posting from someone saying "soon".



I understand complex interfaces but the e-junkie isn't that complex. We could at least see something.



One of the other shopping carts I use integrated Stripe processing in 3 whole days. Had it debugged and fully operational in less than a week.



With that cart I can login from anywhere with my phone, tablet, or computer and be done with my task in a matter of minutes. With e-junkie I have to wait till I'm at a computer, hope that Flash doesn't freeze, etc. So I'm pleading - get this stuff done.



I mean we are coming up on Q4 and there is absolutely no indication that anything has happened other than occasional postings saying "any day now".



Okay enough ranting now. I like e-junkie - a lot. But i no longer recommend it to anyone as much of it is now archaic and I cannot point to any indication that new development is in the works. I want to be proven wrong and use the service for a long time. But things need to get updated and progress made. Give us something - anything - to give some confidence that this is getting worked on and that progress with items like the new interface and Stripe have a chance of showing up before say 2020.



I know some of you think 2020 sounds like a long way away. But that is almost how long we have been hearing about the new admin and not seeing it. At this point I see nothing tangible to indicate that a new admin is even in the works.



Help me out here e-junkie. Restore my confidence. Actually let me work on my clients concerns using modern tools like my phone, iPads, and other tablets. Catch up with the current state of the art.

13 days later

dstrange, thanks for your input because that's exactly how I feel too. Apart from not getting new features, the biggest show stopper is the lack of a non-flash interface usable on various devices. I understand they had staffing issues, lack of resources, etc., and so maybe could not respond to market demands on features, but when a company cannot turn around to make their site actually usable on a whole lot of devices, and promising for years , I start to feel that its time to move on. This along with lack of new features is starting to make ejunkies look risky to me. As stated by dstrange, would certainly think twice before recommending it to anyone.



I like ejunkies a lot and have been with them for years which is why I feel sad as I write this. We are constantly looking for alternatives now and I am sure it is only a matter of time before we make the jump. If any one has any good suggestions on alternatives, please let me know. And I don't think this is unfair to ejunkies as we would gladly stay if their system could actually be used on devices or had the basic features you expect from a modern shopping cart (such as providing a simple PDF receipt for each transaction with the details of products purchased so we don't have to do this manually for each customer!). It's not too much to ask I am sure.

I am pleased to confirm we are starting formal alpha-testing/QA review internally as of this week. Once that's completed, and we've addressed any bugs discovered as a result, we will have the confidence to open it to select clientele for a round of beta testing, after which we can finally take it live for the general public. We offer our deepest thanks to you, our loyal clientele, for your considerable patience and understanding while we completed this long-anticipated and overdue upgrade.



Regarding receipts, the buyer normally receives a receipt email from the payment processor (e.g. PayPal) rather than from us, since we don't handle any actual payment funds, whereas they do. If you wish, you can also format your E-junkie-generated thank-you pages like an invoice, as we explain in more detail on this help page:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/tips.thankyou-page.invoice.htm

Thanks E-junkieGuru for the update and as always look forward to the new version once its here.



As for receipts, I am sure I have covered this in detail elsewhere so I feel disappointed that I have to spell it out again. E-junkies is simply incapable of producing a decent acceptable receipt with the list of products included, either in the thank you page or sent by email. There is no token to include the list of products. A receipt MUST HAVE a list of products. I know the payment is processed by processors like paypal, but your system "knows" when a transaction has succeeded. You have access to invoice numbers, transaction IDs, prices, customer details, date of purchase, etc., all of which is present in the email you send a supplier about each transaction. Yes, let me say that again. You already send the info in an email to us along with a whole lot of other info that is suitable only for the supplier. Therefor you can certainly format the same information in a different way and create a receipt that is sent to the customer. Its not even hard to do and will not even take one day of programming. A receipt is the most basic thing a shopping cart can do. Please don't make excuses.

The thank-you pages we generate already include by default a bullet-pointed list of all items ordered by the buyer; in fact, we have no way to remove those item names from our thank-you pages. The help page linked in my previous reply above simply explains how to display additional item and order details to that default list of purchased items -- e.g., in the example provided at the end of that help page, sample item names in boldface such as "Example Tangible Item Name" show where your actual item names for that order would be displayed in the page.

So you are confirming that the data is displayed in a thank you page that is hosted by you. But didn't you say that you don't handle the actual payment and so you cannot actually show this data. Do you see the inconsistency?



We use our own thank you page. Customers want to receive an email receipt for their account and the thank you page example you have doesn't look official for their accounts. So you already have the information for the transaction, you already send an email to us the supplier about the transaction with all the details, it should not be hard at all to send one to the customer too.



Sure enough, you can use your excuse that you are waiting for the non-flash UI before you do this, but please do not say it cannot be done, or that is already done.