PayPal Advanced not working with Layout C

[E-junkie_Guru]

PayPal still has not addressed the third-party cookie blocking issue which compelled us to adopt the compromise approach we're still using now (as explained above). Furthermore, it appears they are no longer actively developing or promoting PayPal Payments Advanced, in favor of pushing PayPal Payments Pro, so it seems unlikely they will ever resolve this problem.



If you might consider upgrading to PayPal Payments Pro -- which uses a single, self-contained, secure page we manage for your card-based checkouts -- this help page explains how to integrate that with E-junkie:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-partner.htm



Unfortunately, checkouts can never occur on your own site/domain with E-junkie due to our inherent nature as a centrally-managed service which does not install any software on your server; this is one of the tradeoffs for our ease of use and site integration.

[gorilla]

I'll call PayPal today regarding your answer, I'm unaware that they are trying to discontinue the service I'm using and their support is very good so far, I'm using them for 8 years without issues. I've tried that link but the checkout page is just a white page with some form fields and a logo on top, looks pretty much the same as what I have now but centered, all hosted shopping cart companies like yours or even WordPress plugins like Easy Digital Downloads offer a plethora of payment gateways and a great checkout experience, is the checkout page here http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-partner.htm the best that your company can offer in this modern web browser and apps age? it looks totally out of place and it does not inspire customer trust when you get a page like this.

[E-junkie_Guru]

This is the page where I found PayPal Payments Advanced listed as a "Legacy product" which is "No longer actively marketed; now included with PayPal Payments Pro":

https://developer.paypal.com/webapps/developer/docs/classic/products/payflow/



Elsewhere in that documentation, they have indicated that "Legacy products remain available for pre-existing users", so it seems they will continue to support existing integrations using it into the foreseeable future.



We've already prepared the design for a more modern, mobile-responsive card checkout page, but Development still needs to actually implement that as a live checkout page, replacing our current card checkout page (which is not responsive, as you've seen). When that project is completed and goes live, we would post a notice to our System Status & Updates forum here:

http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/forum/6

[gorilla]

Ok but your proposed new solution for PayPal payments Pro looks pretty obsolete too, that is my issue, if you offer an amazing looking checkout page I'm going to make sure that I meet all requirements and move my accounts to take advantage of this checkout page but so far it is the same page but centered and with a logo on top.



I understand that you may be developing one page but the latest e-junkie.com changes from flash to html took like 6 years?



I would love to use this new mobile responsive checkout page but you do not have it right now and I need to move fast, what about the integration with EDD? I see that they need to receive the product purchase data to from url, I'm already sending transaction data to a url from E-junkie to my sever for customer account creation, can I send transaction data to EDD script too? Can your software allow to send transaction data to two URLs? I assume this would pretty easy?



If I can send info data to EDD plugin and also data to my account creation script I'll be spending a little more money but I'm ok with that as I'll be offering a superior checkout experience.



Here is the info:



http://docs.easydigitaldownloads.com/article/408-e-junkie-purchases-setup-documentation





This could solve my issue retaining customers after they click the purchase button until e-junkie release their own modern checkout page.



Can you please let me know?

[E-junkie_Guru]

There are ways to have us post the order details to more than one URL, and I've contacted EDD support to clarify something about their integration which would determine the best approach for that; however, EDD's E-junkie integration would only have us post the order details to EDD after we're done processing the buyer's order, so you'd still be using E-junkie's purchase buttons and checkout -- i.e., this wouldn't allow you to use some other checkout experience and then have E-junkie issue download links after the buyer has paid.

[gorilla]

If that is the only integration I'm stuck with your checkout if I want to continue using e-junkie for hosting files and affiliates?



Is there any other service that will integrate with e-junkie that have a professional integrated checkout process?



Are all e-junkie customers using this blank page with a top left checkout form after the customer click on a buy button?



You would imagine how that page looks on a 27 inch hiDPI retina screen.

[E-junkie_Guru]

If you want to continue using E-junkie's download delivery and affiliate features, you must sell your products using E-junkie's purchase buttons and checkout flows.



Only PayPal Advanced uses that rather bare-bones top-left-aligned payment information page that comes after the buyer submits their billing/shipping address on our checkout page. 2Checkout works similarly, but their payment information page is much nicer than the PayPal Advanced one. Only PayPal Payments Pro, Payflow Pro, and Authorize.Net use a single page for our card checkouts (which all use the same non-responsive page you've already seen for PayPal Pro). You can see the 2Checkout flow by testing our demo cart here:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/2checkout-shopping-cart.htm



Also bear in mind that the PayPal Payments Standard checkout site will usually offer a card-based payment option for buyers without a PayPal account, depending on your own PayPal account type and related settings, which we explain in more detail here:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/faq.paypal.card-checkout.htm

[gorilla]

In your 2checkout sample I still see a white page with a form centered instead of left-aligned, am I looking a the wrong sample? Can you link to the much nicer checkout page to test the features?



I have PayPal Payments Advanced and i do have credit card payments without the need of a PayPal account all, that is the main reason I use their service instead of just regular Paypal.



They have Layout A & B checkout pages that look much much better than Layout C.



You are encouraging me to upgrade to PayPal Payments Pro but wha tis the difference from what I have now if I can accept cards without PayPal?



So far every sample on your site takes me to this checkout page with a red legend on top with the credit card test info and it looks like a page from the 80's, can direct me to the nicer one stoa you are mentioning here?

[E-junkie_Monster]

2Checkout's process begins with the basic form on our site but then redirects to a different payment form at their end. You can see that by filling out the demo checkout at http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/2checkout-shopping-cart.htm with any information and then clicking the "Proceed to payment form" link at the bottom.

[gorilla]

What was EDD answer to your question about the integration? I'm still trying to do this or cancel E-junkie and go 100% with EDD and their Affiliate WP softwares.

[E-junkie_Guru]

EDD has not replied to my inquiry from over a month ago, so I've just sent them a followup reminder.

[gorilla]

Thank you for your follow up, I'll contact them and forward the link to this thread too.

[E-junkie_Guru]

Finally heard back from EDD, apparently the delay was because this integration was developed by a third party who'd abandoned the project; here's what they said:

EDD SupportSo it actually looks like we'll have to make some decisions with this extension very soon (as we are about to do with all extensions we sell). The thing is, EDD hosts an extension marketplace. While there are several 3rd party extensions that we do nothing more than link to, there are also several that we sell for 3rd party developers. We simply take a small commission cut.



Some extensions, like this one, don't sell much at all. And we've recently made the decision to start getting rid of them. I did ask the extension developer about the things you mentioned, specifically the last paragraph of your original query [regarding why, or even if, it required both a Code Generator URL and Payment Variable Information URL, both identical]. His response was:



"Thanks for the update. It's been a while, so I'm not sure why I chose to use both."



Obviously, that's not very helpful. It was immediately followed by asking us, the EDD team, if we were interested in buying the extension from him. Because of its very low sales (2 in a year and a half), we aren't. So it's very possible that it will be taken off of the market extremely soon. And I can say with certainty that its codebase will not be receiving an update from us or its developer.

[gorilla]

Thank you for the follow up, I just contacted them and forwarded this same thread too.

[gorilla]

I'm switching to PayPal Pro and it will be done in a couple of hours, I'm just waiting for their e-mail to tell me is completed. I see that I can just click on PayPal Pro "Accept Credit Cards" under my profile and switch from PayPal Payments Advanced to PayPal Payments Pro but the PayPal Manager Gateway Credentials form with my info disappears and instead I just get a checkbox next to the credit cars I want to accept and nothing else, is that it? nothing else to configure?



I'm with PayPal on the phone an they are selling me that credentials will be the same, it is just in their end the switch to Pro.



My store is live and i cannot afford customers not being able to purchase because of this change, can you tell me after I switch Paypal advanced to PayPal Pro what else I need to change? where I enter the credentials I had for advanced before?



How I can select a different checkout layout now that I have Paypal Pro instead of that ugly unprofessional white page with the little PayPal format the top left?



Thank you in advance for your help.

[E-junkie_Guru]

It may help to clarify whether you're upgrading to PayPal Payments Pro vs. PayPal Payflow Pro.



If you'll be using PayPal Payments Pro, then there are no credentials to enter at our end, aside from your PayPal Email; the API permissions in our setup instructions would take care of the rest:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-partner.htm



If you'll be using Payflow Pro, that uses the same PayPal Manager credentials as PayPal Payments Advanced:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/paypal-payflow-pro-shopping-cart.htm



In both cases, card-based checkouts would use a secure checkout page we manage for you, rather than anything at PayPal's end. To preview what this page looks like, you can test the demo cart buttons at either of the links above. It's mostly the same as the buyer name/address initial checkout page you saw with PayPal Advanced, except that it incorporates card account info fields in the same page, rather than using the separate, bare-bones PayPal-hosted card-info page you saw with Advanced. BTW, we're quite aware that checkout page looks rather dated and are planning to modernize it soon. :^)

[gorilla]

Thank you I'm switching from PayPal Payments Advanced to PayPal Payments Pro.



Are you supporting in-context too? https://developer.paypal.com/docs/classic/express-checkout/in-context/



Yes your checkout page looks very dated, a simple 1 hour css quick styling would do wonders :o)

[frio]

This is the first we've heard of in-context checkout, so it must be pretty new, and we'll have to research that further; thanks for the tip!



I've already prepared the HTML/CSS for a new card checkout page, just waiting on Development to get to that item on their to-do list. :^)

[E-junkie_Guru]

This is the first we've heard of in-context checkout, so it must be pretty new, and we'll have to research that further; thanks for the tip!



I've already prepared the HTML/CSS for a new card checkout page, just waiting on Development to get to that item on their to-do list. :^)

[gorilla]

Easy Digital Downloads and WooCommerce offer In-context checkout with their add-ons, it looks pretty pretty simple to add and they even give you the code.



Any preview about this checkout page, it is on par with modern checkout pages from the service mentioned above or stripe etc?